{"id":742,"date":"2010-12-05T13:37:12","date_gmt":"2010-12-05T18:37:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=742"},"modified":"2012-04-13T09:05:56","modified_gmt":"2012-04-13T14:05:56","slug":"strobe-projector-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=742","title":{"rendered":"Strobe Projector 1"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">So here are the shameless plugs at the beginning of this blog. My book <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1608952428?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=siskinphotoco-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1608952428\">Understanding and Controlling Strobe Lighting: A Guide for Digital Photographers<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=siskinphotoco-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1608952428\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" \/> is on Amazon.com. It got as high as number 15 in photographic lighting   books! And there was much rejoicing! But is is dropping now, so you  need  to buy a couple of copies for holiday presents. Here is a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.siskinphoto.com\/magazine\/zpdf\/ch3.pdf\">sample chapter<\/a>.   Of course I still hope that you will consider purchasing my fine art book <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blurb.com\/bookstore\/detail\/1686891\">B Four<\/a>:   pictures of beach, beauty, beings and buildings. Frankly purchases of   this book mean a lot to me, and it is also a fine gift for the   holidays.\u00a0 As you   know I teach for BetterPhoto.com. I really hope you&#8217;ll sign up my class:\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.betterphoto.com\/courseOverview.asp?cspID=172\">An Introduction to Photographic Lighting<\/a>. Sign up are very good this month!<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_750\" style=\"width: 210px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5721.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-750\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-750\" title=\"Blue Wiggy\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5721-200x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5721-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5721-682x1024.jpg 682w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5721.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-750\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A projector light source can create wonderful special effects!<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"> Light comes off of a small light source, whether light bulb or a strobe tube, in all directions. People don\u2019t generally like this effect, regardless of where it happens. So you don\u2019t see many living rooms lit by a 60-watt bulb hanging from a wire. There are two basic ways photographers modify light to make it more useful. First, we make the light source bigger so it is softer. We might do this with an umbrella or a light panel or a soft box. These devices light the subject from more angles because the light source is bigger, so the light is softer with longer gradation. The other thing we do is to shoot light onto a smaller part of the subject. We might use a grid spot or a snoot to do this. Of course there are any number of small strobes, like the SB 900 or the 580 II EX that retain the effect of a small light source and spread the light over only the area you want to photograph. Often the results of this are grim, but perhaps we\u2019ll get to that issue another day.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"> <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_754\" style=\"width: 309px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5633.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-754\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-754\" title=\"The Projector\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5633-299x236.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"299\" height=\"236\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5633-299x236.jpg 299w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5633-1024x808.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5633.jpg 1164w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 299px) 100vw, 299px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-754\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">This projector fits onto a Norman LH2400 strobe head<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">There is another way to control light, which can offer very special effects. We can use a lens and project the light. This enables us to put light in a very small area of a shot, or put light with a very sharp edge into a shot. This means you could make a spot that was only a millimeter across or make a spot, or pattern, with a hard edge. You can also project images into a shot. There are a couple of ways to do this, but there are also significant challenges. A few years ago I wrote an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.siskinphoto.com\/magazine\/zpdf\/Projector.pdf\">article<\/a> about doing this with slide projectors. This worked extremely well with film cameras. This was so because there were few<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_757\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5541.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-757\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-757\" title=\"Norman Diffusion Dome\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5541-300x291.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"291\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5541-300x291.jpg 300w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5541.jpg 838w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-757\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">This glass dome evens the light from the strobe tube, very helpful!<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">issues with very long exposures and you could do double exposures easily. I still use the slide projectors, but they just aren\u2019t as useful with my digital camera. If you have a slide projector you may want to do some experiments to see how suited they are to your camera. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I have often wanted to use a strobe as the light source for projecting an image. There have been devices made to do this, but most of them were designed to project backgrounds. This is not a useful as it once was, because it is easy to drop in a background with Photoshop, while it was very challenging to do this with film. I am not very interested in projecting backgrounds, but am interested in projecting light onto a<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_760\" style=\"width: 284px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5544.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-760\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-760\" title=\"Step down pipe\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5544-274x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"274\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5544-274x300.jpg 274w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5544.jpg 844w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 274px) 100vw, 274px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-760\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">This pipe reduces the reflector diameter to the diameter of the projector tube.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">person\u2019s face. Norman makes a device called a Tri-lite, which is priced at almost $1400 on the last price list I have. The Tri-lite is a strobe-powered projector. They are often available used for less money. I should mention that you would also need a Norman 900 series power pack with the Tri Light, as it won\u2019t plug into the wall. I used one occasionally when I shot film, and the light output was too dim for most purposes. However, I am sure a Tri-Lite would be powerful enough to be useful with many digital cameras. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">There is another option, a projection box. Dean Collins introduced this design. Basically it uses a relative small aperture, or hole, between the strobe and what you\u2019re projecting. It isn\u2019t particularly<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_764\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5624.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-764\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-764\" title=\"Projector tubes\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5624-300x250.jpg\" alt=\"Projector tubes\" width=\"300\" height=\"250\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5624-300x250.jpg 300w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5624-1024x855.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5624.jpg 1130w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-764\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">I made several versions of the projector tube before I got one that worked. The one in the center works pretty well. <\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">sharp. The thing you\u2019re projecting should be large, at least 4X5 inches. And it doesn\u2019t create a lot of light. So I never got around to building one of these, but you can probably find plans on the web. There was at least one commercially available device built on this plan. There are also some specialized snoots that can project, but again without much sharpness.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I thought about building a projector for some time, but I thought in terms of a slide projector with a strobe behind it.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">The problem is that a slide projector <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">is really quite complex, so my ideas were <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_767\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5629.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-767\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-767\" title=\"Projector Tube\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5629-300x282.jpg\" alt=\"Projector tube\" width=\"300\" height=\"282\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5629-300x282.jpg 300w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5629.jpg 901w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-767\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The projector tube. You can see the series 7 filter holder on the back fo the tube<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">impractical. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Recently I found myself thinking about an enlarger rather than a slide projector, and enlargers are basically simple. An enlarger is a light source, a diffuser, a negative carrier and a lens that focuses. No mirrors, no condensers and no auto-focus. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Before I discuss the device I built I have to mention a couple of things. First, never, and that means under no circumstances, use a Dremel tool without safety glasses. You shouldn\u2019t use any power tool without safety glasses, but this is particularly true of Dremel and other power carving tools. Second, this<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_774\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5636.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-774\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-774\" title=\"Series 7 filter holder\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5636-300x292.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"292\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5636-300x292.jpg 300w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5636.jpg 599w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-774\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">This is the holder I uses for cookies and for slides. Cookies are used to make patterns. <\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">projector captures a lot of heat, so you it is best not to build it for any strobe that doesn\u2019t have a fan, that means most or all mono lights, including Alien Bees and Calumet Travelites. It is possible you could use this device if you didn\u2019t use a modeling light, but I don\u2019t think so. If you do build something based on these ideas please let me know how it works for you. This week I am going to discuss the general details and show pictures of some of the construction. In the next blog I\u2019ll discuss more details. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">The strobe I used is a Norman LH2400 with a fan. This strobe only works with a Norman power pack. I have a lot of these strobes, so if something went wrong I could afford it. I used a<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_776\" style=\"width: 290px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5635.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-776\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-776\" title=\"Kodak Projector Lens\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5635-280x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"280\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5635-280x300.jpg 280w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5635.jpg 686w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 280px) 100vw, 280px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-776\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">This is a Kodak projector lens. I attached a 52mm filter thread to make it easier to mount filters. <\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Norman 5 inch reflector and a Norman Diffusion Dome. The dome fits inside the reflector and makes the light even. Which is important. Basically these two items make up the light source of a diffusion enlarger. Then I went to the plumbing section of a home improvement store. I got some 2.25-inch external diameter PVC and a step-down pipe that steps a large pipe down to a small one. The large side has an external diameter of 5 inches so it fit into my Norman reflector and the other end held PVC pipe with an external diameter of 2.25 inches. I painted the inside of the step-down pipe white with high temperature paint. I used the high temperature paint because heat is a problem. I cut a nail down to about 1\/2. I made a hole to insert the nail from the reflector into the step-down pipe. This keeps the adapter from<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_779\" style=\"width: 289px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5754-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-779\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-779\" title=\"Self Portait\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5754-2-279x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"279\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5754-2-279x300.jpg 279w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/F23C5754-2.jpg 931w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 279px) 100vw, 279px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-779\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Fun with lights! Come back soon for more details. <\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">falling out of the reflector. I then made some cuts in the 2.25-inch pipe to accommodate a 4-inch focal length lens from a Kodak projector. This is a good lens for this project, as it is inexpensive and pretty bright. The focus on this lens can be adjusted by moving it inside the 2.25-inch pipe. I ground out the back of the pipe so that a series 7 adapter would fit inside. This holds the material to be projected. More details on this next week.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">You can\u2019t leave the modeling light on, even with the fan on this strobe. But you can use it to position the light. Because the light is so detailed, this is important. I\u2019ll have more details of construction and samples from the new light next week. I hope with different models. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I still offer a class at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.betterphoto.com\">BetterPhoto<\/a>, I hope you\u2019ll consider taking it: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.betterphoto.com\/courseOverview.asp?cspID=172\">An Introduction to Photographic Lighting<\/a> And please consider my book: <\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1608952428?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=siskinphotoco-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1608952428\">Understanding and Controlling Strobe Lighting: A Guide for Digital Photographers<\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=siskinphotoco-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1608952428\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" \/>.<span style=\"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Have a wonderful holiday season!<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.betterphoto.com\/AffiliateWiz\/aw.aspx?B=5&amp;A=194&amp;Task=Click\" target=\"_Blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.betterphoto.com\/AffiliateWiz\/aw.aspx?B=5&amp;A=194&amp;Task=Get\" border=\"0\" alt=\"BetterPhoto.com, The better way to learn photography\" width=\"800\" height=\"120\" \/><\/a><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We can use a lens and project the light. 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