{"id":5302,"date":"2023-08-17T18:20:44","date_gmt":"2023-08-17T23:20:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=5302"},"modified":"2025-08-15T15:33:14","modified_gmt":"2025-08-15T20:33:14","slug":"shooting-a-bausch-lomb-petzval-lens","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=5302","title":{"rendered":"Shooting a Bausch &#038; Lomb Petzval Lens"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Woody-1-small-copy.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-5313\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Woody-1-small-copy-822x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"822\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Woody-1-small-copy-822x1024.jpg 822w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Woody-1-small-copy-241x300.jpg 241w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Woody-1-small-copy-768x957.jpg 768w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Woody-1-small-copy-1233x1536.jpg 1233w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Woody-1-small-copy.jpg 1284w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 822px) 100vw, 822px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I\u2019m going to try to explain a project that I\u2019m trying to work on. Unfortunately, for explanation, it\u2019s a complex explanation with many threads; the good news, for me anyway, is that the complexity makes the project more interesting. You see one of my problems, as an image maker, is that I get bored with the simple things. Anyway, I\u2019ve often heard that writing should begin at the beginning.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Woody-6-small.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-5314\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Woody-6-small-845x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"845\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Woody-6-small-845x1024.jpg 845w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Woody-6-small-248x300.jpg 248w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Woody-6-small-768x930.jpg 768w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Woody-6-small-1268x1536.jpg 1268w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Woody-6-small.jpg 1321w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 845px) 100vw, 845px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Photography was introduced in 1839. There were two competing methods of capturing an image with a chemical process. One was a direct positive image process called Daguerreotype, this is one of the threads which I hope to come back to. The more interesting process, to me anyway, was introduced by William Henry Fox Talbot. This process called photogenic drawing, involved making a negative, usually with a camera. The negative was dark where the original scene was bright and light where the scene was dark, a reversal of the original tones. Then the negative is put in contact with a second piece of sensitized paper and exposing this second piece of paper through the original paper negative. This produced a positive image, and you could make multiple positive prints. In terms of my project, it\u2019s important to point out that he was using paper to make his negatives. There was no flexible film, which was invented by George Eastman. It would be quite a while before anyone found a process of making a photographically sensitive material that would stick to glass. Fox Talbot did the first book which explained how to do photography and was illustrated with actual photographs. You can see a good reproduction of the book <u>Pencil Of Nature<\/u> at this link: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gutenberg.org\/ebooks\/33447\">https:\/\/www.gutenberg.org\/ebooks\/33447<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Very early in the practice of making photographs the martial used to make the negative, exposed in the camera, diverged from the materials used to make prints intended for display. The negative needed to be as light sensitive as possible, it needed to be on a translucent or, preferably, transparent material. The actual look of the negative was less important than the way it recorded information, since no one was really intending to look at negatives. In addition to being as sensitive to light as possible, it was a continuing challenge to make negatives that recorded color in ways that seemed intuitively right. For instance, the sensitive material, usually called emulsion, was unable to record red properly until the early years of the 20<sup>th<\/sup> century. Before that red, say red lips, were reproduced as black on prints. This panchromatic film and plate material was important to making negatives, but it made no difference for making prints. In fact, using an emulsion which was only sensitive to blue light made darkroom work much easier since you could work under red or amber light, called safelight. Many different ways of making photographic prints were introduced from the beginning of photography. Early methods included cyanotypes, platinotypes and kallitypes. By the middle of the 20<sup>th<\/sup> century the standard print was called a silver gelatin print. I\u2019ll mention little more about working with direct positive materials at the end of this essay. I\u2019ll want to mention are the introduction of color film, particularly Kodachrome, which was a direct positive material.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">The positive black and white silver gelatin print was how most people experienced actual photographs for a long time. Of course, people experienced more images that were reproduced in ink, as newspapers, books and so on, but this essay is following photographic print making, rather than photomechanical printing. At the same time this was the dominant mode there were many creative photographers making images in unusual ways. For a long time, people continued to use film that wasn\u2019t red sensitive, called orthochromatic film. In fact, Ilford still produces this sort of film. This made it possible to develop film by inspecting it during processing, rather developing film in total darkness which is necessary with panchromatic film. Kodak used to suggest using orthochromatic film for making portraits of European skin tones that had a reddish \u201cruddy\u201d hue. I have no first-hand information about this technique. I am not sure when people started using silver gelatin paper in cameras instead of film. It was very popular with pin hole cameras because paper is cheaper than film and much easier to process. Kodak used to make a very thin paper, Ad Type, which was considered to be particularly good for making paper negatives, since it was more transparent that usual paper.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">If you are currently making, or interested in making, paper negatives the situation is quite good. In the 1970s photo paper on a vinyl base, rather than paper, was introduced. This stuff is easy and <u>quick<\/u> to process. It dries flat. It scans very well. It is much cheaper than large film; <u>25 sheets<\/u> of 8&#215;10 Ilford HP-5 is over $200 and Ilford Multigrade paper is about $130 for <u>100 sheets<\/u> ($8 per exposure vs. $1.30). The paper is sensitive to colors excepting amber and red, more than the original papers were. In addition, current photo paper, such as Ilford Multigrade RC is hugely more sensitive to light than 19<sup>th<\/sup> century materials. My tests tell me that the Ilford paper is something like 64 times more sensitive than tintype (an early and popular direct print) material was. Translated into modern film speeds I find that Ilford Multigrade RC can be exposed at ISO 64 with strobe (electronic flash) illumination. With daylight the ISO might be as low as 25.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">II<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_5316\" style=\"width: 820px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Cassie2-14v-6.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5316\" class=\"size-large wp-image-5316\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Cassie2-14v-6-810x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"810\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Cassie2-14v-6-810x1024.jpg 810w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Cassie2-14v-6-237x300.jpg 237w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Cassie2-14v-6-768x971.jpg 768w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Cassie2-14v-6-1215x1536.jpg 1215w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/Cassie2-14v-6.jpg 1266w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 810px) 100vw, 810px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-5316\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Cassie #14 from Courting Chaos<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I am writing this as I begin a second project with paper negatives. The first project, Courting Chaos, began with an 11&#215;14 camera and a desire to experiment with solarizing negative. Much of the inspiration came from Man Ray. You can see a lot of this project by starting with this link: <a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=4397\">https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=4397<\/a> (some of this project is not \u201cwork safe\u201d). Whatever I\u2019m doing now began when a friend sent me a Bausch &amp; Lomb Rapid Portrait lens a couple of months ago. I am very fortunate. The lens is a Petzval design and built in the 1890s, about 135 years ago. For a long time, these sorts of lenses were the big deal portrait lenses. They are incredibly sharp in the center, almost three dimensional. Sharpness degrades quickly at you move out from the center. In addition, they were very fast lenses, especially for large format cameras, so they had almost no depth of field. They create a very compelling portrait. Often people don\u2019t consider that the lens can do a lot more than just a neutral rendition of the subject.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_5304\" style=\"width: 233px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230228_233545866.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5304\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-5304\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230228_233545866-223x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"223\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230228_233545866-223x300.jpg 223w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230228_233545866-760x1024.jpg 760w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230228_233545866-768x1034.jpg 768w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230228_233545866-1140x1536.jpg 1140w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230228_233545866.jpg 1188w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 223px) 100vw, 223px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-5304\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Bausch &amp; Lomb Rapid Portrait Lens<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">The Petzval was designed in 1840, just after Daguerre and Fox Talbot introduced methods of making photographs. Cameras existed before photographic materials. They were used as drawing aids. Of course, they had lenses, but, since an image for drawing could be re-focused and shifted, the lenses for these cameras weren\u2019t suitable for making photographs where good focus had to cover most of the photographic plate. The Petzval was the first lens designed by mathematical computation rather than experience and experiment. Joseph Petzval was loaned several mathematicians by Archduke Louis of Austria, commander of artillery. The artillery was one of the few places where there were any people who could do the trigonometric calculations necessary for lens design. In addition to being incredibly sharp in the center of the image, theses lenses also had extremely high light transmission; they were \u201cfast.\u201d Even today this is one of the fastest lenses, for large format cameras, I have ever owned. I have owned a whole lot of lenses.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I should point out that there are some modern lenses, primarily from a company called Lomography, which are inspired by Petzval\u2019s design. Of course, Petzval never made lenses designed to cover the small formats of today\u2019s digital cameras; all of the original lenses were designed for cameras which shot plates that were quite large: a whole plate was 6.5&#215;8.5 inches. Thus, these modern lenses are more inspired by than copies. Petzval lenses were not made for cameras much after 1900, but they were used for projecting images: movies and slides. Because they are fast lenses, and projection lenses are longer than shooting lenses this old formula worked well for this application.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">These old lenses are quite prized by modern photographers making portraits with large format cameras. Also, modern photographers who make tintype and other wet plate images, the techniques used between the 1850s and the 1880s, are always looking for Petzval lenses. I am very fortunate to have been given this lens.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">III<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">In order for any camera, modern digital or old large format, it needs to accomplish several things. It must focus light, which can be achieved with something as simple as a pinhole or with a complex modern zoom lens. While a pinhole doesn\u2019t have to be in a particular position to achieve good focus, more complex lenses must be positioned quite precisely. A camera must hold the sensitive material in a the right position as well, or the focus will be degraded. A camera must control the amount of light which hits the sensitive material. This is achieved by controlling how much light comes through the lens and by how long the lens is open. The amount of light coming through the lens is controlled by a diaphragm in the middle of the lens. This control is usually measured in \u201cf-stops.\u201d These numbers are often confusing to new photographers. The amount of time the film or sensor is exposed to light is usually controlled by the aptly named \u201cshutter.\u201d When photography was beginning, since the sensitive materials were not very sensitive a lens cap could easily manage the exposure time. Modern cameras will generally have shutter speeds between several seconds and something as short as 1\/4000<sup>th<\/sup> of a second. A camera must also block any stray light, light which doesn\u2019t come through the lens, from exposing the film.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_5307\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230302_183011277.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5307\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-5307\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230302_183011277-300x233.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"233\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230302_183011277-300x233.jpg 300w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230302_183011277-1024x795.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230302_183011277-768x596.jpg 768w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230302_183011277-1536x1192.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230302_183011277.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-5307\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Petzval mounted on my 8&#215;10 Toyo. This is a camera from the 1980s<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">A camera from the 19<sup>th<\/sup> century generally had a ground glass back to focus the lens. The plate was in a holder which went the ground glass had been. The camera often had bellows between the film holding section, back standard, and the front standard, where the lens was mounted. Either the front or back, or both, could be moved to achieve correct focus. The diaphragm was most often in the middle of the lens, as a part of the lens. Sometimes a flat brass plate with a hole was used instead of a variable diaphragm. And the photographer might use his or her hat as a shutter. By the end of the 20<sup>th<\/sup> century all lenses designed for shooting had, in addition to a diaphragm, a leaf shutter. This shutter usually had speeds from 1 second to about 1\/500<sup>th<\/sup> of a second. Photographers needed these shutters because, as mentioned, film is at least 50 times more light sensitive than the wet plate materials photographers were using when my Petzval was made. While I might make a 1 hour exposure, it was unusual to make an exposure longer than \u00bc of a second.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230302_183027038.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-5305\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230302_183027038-220x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"220\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230302_183027038-220x300.jpg 220w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230302_183027038-751x1024.jpg 751w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230302_183027038-768x1048.jpg 768w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230302_183027038-1126x1536.jpg 1126w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230302_183027038.jpg 1173w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 220px) 100vw, 220px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">IV<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Perhaps all writing of done so far will make the problem clear to some readers. Certainly a few readers simply haven\u2019t made it this far. The problem is how to actually make a picture with the Bausch Rapid Portrait lens. Often, I\u2019ll read someone\u2019s explanation of how to do a thing and it sounds as though they new exactly how to do a thing before even trying. I wish it was like that for me. First, I have to understand the problem then I begin to work through solutions.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_5309\" style=\"width: 250px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/wiggy-scan-7.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5309\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-5309\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/wiggy-scan-7-240x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"240\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/wiggy-scan-7-240x300.jpg 240w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/wiggy-scan-7-820x1024.jpg 820w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/wiggy-scan-7-768x959.jpg 768w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/wiggy-scan-7-1230x1536.jpg 1230w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/wiggy-scan-7.jpg 1281w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 240px) 100vw, 240px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-5309\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A first test shooting the Petzval. Note that this is the negative<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Problem #1<br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Getting the lens onto a camera. I actually have considerable experience with this one. I use Toyo 6.25&#215;6.25-inch lens boards for large lenses. I\u2019ve done a blog post which describes one way of cutting a large hole for a large lens: <a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=3662\">https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=3662<\/a>. There are other ways to cut lens boards, but this is about the only way I can cut very large holes, such as I need for the Bausch &amp; Lomb lens. This lens did not come with a retaining ring, which is a threaded piece which holds the lens onto the board. When you don\u2019t have the retaining ring, you can find a really good machinist to cut you one. Expensive. An alternative is the hose clamp method I\u2019ve used here. It\u2019s not elegant, but it does work. In addition to the clamp, I used some rubber as a sleeve which makes the lens more secure. I also used Permatex 82180 Ultra Black Maximum Oil Resistance RTV Silicone Gasket Maker. I\u2019ve used this with a number of camera hacks, it\u2019s really good stuff. Keep in mind you really, really don\u2019t want the lens to fall off, really.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_5312\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/bausch-Lomb-.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5312\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-5312\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/bausch-Lomb--300x233.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"233\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/bausch-Lomb--300x233.jpg 300w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/bausch-Lomb--1024x794.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/bausch-Lomb--768x595.jpg 768w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/bausch-Lomb--1536x1190.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/bausch-Lomb-.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-5312\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The lens held to the board with a hose clamp<\/p><\/div>\n<div id=\"attachment_5310\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/bausch-Lomb-_1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5310\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-5310\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/bausch-Lomb-_1-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/bausch-Lomb-_1-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/bausch-Lomb-_1-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/bausch-Lomb-_1-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/bausch-Lomb-_1-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/bausch-Lomb-_1.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-5310\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Close up of the hose clamp mount<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Problem #2<br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Controlling the exposure time. Since the lens is very fast, about f4 and I\u2019m using modern material this is a heck of a problem. If I was going<br \/>\nto shoot this lens outdoors in full daylight, I\u2019d need a shutter speed of about 1\/1000<sup>th<\/sup> of a second. I could shut the diaphragm down block most of the light, but this would remove the Petzval effect: extremely sharp center and diffused sides of the frame. I could use a very dark neutral density filter, but this adds another step between focusing and shooting. If your subject moves you picture could be ruined. Still if I could find an 8 stop neutral density filter that was about 5 inches across it might work.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I have not solved the shutter problem. If you are interested in shutter hack, please check out this link: <a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=3695\">https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=3695<\/a>. Unfortunately, I don\u2019t currently have any shutter large enough for this lens. I have found a work around.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_5306\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230304_172528954.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5306\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-5306\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230304_172528954-300x246.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"246\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230304_172528954-300x246.jpg 300w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230304_172528954-1024x840.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230304_172528954-768x630.jpg 768w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230304_172528954-1536x1260.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230304_172528954.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-5306\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Studio set up for testing. Note the ground glass back on the camera<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">This is the method I\u2019ve used to shoot with this lens without a shutter. I\u2019ve blocked out all the windows in my shooting area. I know that many people prefer what is called a daylight studio, but since I\u2019ve written a couple of books about shooting with strobes (available at Amazon). I have a sodium vapor safelight set up in the studio. This is a relatively bright light that won\u2019t expose modern photo papers, such as Ilford Multigrade. You could use other safelights, but it\u2019s very helpful to have a bright safelight. You will be evaluating the moment to make your picture under just the safelight illumination.<\/span><\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I usually begin a portrait session with 3 lights set up. While I might use more gear as a session goes on, I find if I have a bunch of extra lights out the subject will often want me to explain why I\u2019m not using them. For anyone whose know me for a long time, yes, I am still using Norman LH2000 lights and power packs. These days I\u2019ll have one light with a 5-inch reflector and barn doors, a second with a stove pipe snoot and the third will start as bare bulb. The bare bulb light will be behind the subject to light the background and to give edge light to the subject. In addition, I\u2019ll have a light panel with a silver reflector and a second panel with rip stop nylon. All the lights are strobes, once the modeling lights are turned off, they make no light until triggered. Then they make A LOT of light for about 1\/1000<sup>th<\/sup> of a second. While I could imagine trying to do this with continuous lights, on some sort of short timer, I think it would be very difficult. Particularly since you can set the amount of light an individual strobe will put out, which would be more difficult with continuous lights. I\u2019ve done several magazine articles about portrait photography which might be helpful. You can see them at this link <a href=\"https:\/\/www.siskinphoto.com\/magazinearticles.php\">https:\/\/www.siskinphoto.com\/magazinearticles.php<\/a> which includes most of my magazine work. <span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I\u2019ll start with 5 film holders. Each holder has two sides, so I\u2019ll have 10 pieces of Ilford Multigrade or other photo paper loaded. Just like I start with a limited number of lights out, I start with a limited number of exposures. When I had an assistant, I would start with more film loaded.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I do have one continuous white light set up on a foot switch I use this to help focus, frame and direct the shot.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Once I have the shot arranged, I\u2019ll turn off the white light. I have to get the subject to stay still. This is ALWAYS a problem with large format portraiture. People have the expectation that I can somehow correct the exposure even after the film holder is in the back of the camera. It\u2019s not more difficult with this set up, except you have even less depth of field than you might have in a normal large format portrait session.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230304_172634299.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-5308\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230304_172634299-300x254.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"254\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230304_172634299-300x254.jpg 300w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230304_172634299-1024x867.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230304_172634299-768x650.jpg 768w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230304_172634299-1536x1301.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/PXL_20230304_172634299.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">The greatest advantage of this method of working is that you can develop the images as you go. The first reason you\u2019ll want to do this is that it makes it much easier to evaluate exposure and lighting. Since the processing time on modern paper is about 60 seconds this is almost as fast as Polaroid used to be in my 4&#215;5 camera. Also, this tends to really impress the subject, who has likely never seen a print develop in a tray. The process helps to keep the subject engaged and motivated.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Thread 1<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Direct positive photography was a very important part of commercial photography. Both of the early color photographic processes, Lumierre Autochrome and Kodak Kodachrome, were direct positive processes. The film you shot in the camera was put through several chemical baths and the product was positive color transparency or slide. This was particularly important for commercial color work because transparencies were easier to make color separations from for ink printing. Of course, Polaroid was a direct positive process as well and so were all those Super-8 movies. It was possible to use direct positive color paper, which was used for making color prints from transparencies and slides in the camera. Basically, the process was as described above but there was no safelight. So, in the moment you were making the shot, you were in the dark. This was interesting. Processing color paper is somewhat more difficult than processing black and white paper, but it wasn\u2019t beyond what an amateur could do. Unfortunately, I can\u2019t find anyone supplying direct positive color paper anymore. So it goes.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_5320\" style=\"width: 833px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/fly.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-5320\" class=\"size-large wp-image-5320\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/fly-823x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"823\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/fly-823x1024.jpg 823w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/fly-241x300.jpg 241w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/fly-768x956.jpg 768w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/fly-1235x1536.jpg 1235w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/fly.jpg 1286w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 823px) 100vw, 823px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-5320\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">This shot was made by shooting Cibachrome print material in the camera. I did this shot more than 30 years ago. The print still looks fresh<\/p><\/div>\n<p>A few links<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.siskinphoto.com\/index.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Siskinphoto.Home<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=4720\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Introduction Page<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=4510\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Monument Valley<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=4487\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Taos Pueblo<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=4557\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Night Sky<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=5655\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Lightning<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=4556\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Flowers<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=4611\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Monastery Road<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=4795\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Petroglyphs<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=4995\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Rock<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=5082\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ice and Snow<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=5173\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tsankawi<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=5505\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sugarite Campground<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=5011\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Churchs<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=5598\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">El Morro National Monument<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>I did a large show when I was still in Indianapolis called <a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=4397\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Courting Chaos<\/a>. The link will take you to the pages which describe the work and its evolution. These images are, well, chaotic and many of them are nudes. I hope you\u2019ll find it interesting.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Links to my books, still available at Amazon!<\/p>\n<p><iframe src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;OneJS=1&amp;Operation=GetAdHtml&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;source=ss&amp;ref=as_ss_li_til&amp;ad_type=product_link&amp;tracking_id=siskinphotoco-20&amp;language=en_US&amp;marketplace=amazon&amp;region=US&amp;placement=1608953009&amp;asins=1608953009&amp;linkId=52e7eb97e646f50dd1ae24f85a867287&amp;show_border=true&amp;link_opens_in_new_window=true\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" sandbox=\"allow-popups allow-scripts allow-modals allow-forms allow-same-origin\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><iframe src=\"\/\/ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com\/widgets\/q?ServiceVersion=20070822&amp;OneJS=1&amp;Operation=GetAdHtml&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;source=ss&amp;ref=as_ss_li_til&amp;ad_type=product_link&amp;tracking_id=siskinphotoco-20&amp;language=en_US&amp;marketplace=amazon&amp;region=US&amp;placement=1608952428&amp;asins=1608952428&amp;linkId=10a817289fb8925d1e8b4952585251e8&amp;show_border=true&amp;link_opens_in_new_window=true\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" sandbox=\"allow-popups allow-scripts allow-modals allow-forms allow-same-origin\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The greatest advantage of this method of working is that you can develop the images as you go. The first reason you\u2019ll want to do this is that it makes it much easier to evaluate exposure and lighting. Since the processing time on modern paper is about 60 seconds this is almost as fast as Polaroid used to be in my 4&#215;5 camera. Also, this tends to really impress the subject, who has likely never seen a print develop in a tray. 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