{"id":3521,"date":"2018-06-20T15:48:52","date_gmt":"2018-06-20T20:48:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=3521"},"modified":"2018-06-22T12:02:35","modified_gmt":"2018-06-22T17:02:35","slug":"horseman-970-medium-format-camera","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=3521","title":{"rendered":"Horseman 970 Medium Format Camera"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5574.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3499 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5574.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"665\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5574.jpg 700w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5574-300x285.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I\u2019ve wanted to discuss some vintage cameras for a while. I know that a lot of people are more interested in shooting film again, so I wanted to share some of what I\u2019ve learned about film cameras, especially fun film cameras, over the decades. Of course my idea of fun might be different from yours. Also I\u2019m teaching Large Format Photography at the Art Institute of Indianapolis in a couple of weeks, so these posts will add a little extra information to the class. I\u2019ll be adding a few of more of these discussions about film cameras to this blog over the next months. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5597.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3518 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5597.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"654\" height=\"700\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5597.jpg 654w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5597-280x300.jpg 280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 654px) 100vw, 654px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I\u2019d like to start with a medium format technical camera, the Horseman Press. The one I have is the 970. The later models have more movements and some even have a single window for the viewfinder and the rangefinder. The extra are very nice improvements, but not important for me, because I\u2019m not using the camera for commercial shooting, only fun. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">The camera weighs in at less than 5 pounds, without a roll film back. It collapses to about 6X7X4 inches, so it\u2019s easy to carry with you. You can use a Horseman roll film back, which is probably your best choice, but Graflex roll film backs and even sheet film holders will work as well. You can get the Graflex holders in 6X6cm, 6X7cm and 6X9cm. I&#8217;ve included a picture with an old Graflex back. I\u2019m not sure about the sizes of the horseman backs. The build quality is extremely fine; everything on mine works just beautifully. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5585.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3508 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5585.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"694\" height=\"700\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5585.jpg 694w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5585-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5585-297x300.jpg 297w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 694px) 100vw, 694px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5586.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3509 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5586.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"511\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5586.jpg 700w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5586-300x219.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5611.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3534 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5611.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"513\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5611.jpg 700w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5611-300x220.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Here are a few things I really like: first it will shoot with a large variety of view camera lenses, not just the Horseman lenses. Since you can focus on the ground glass you don\u2019t have to have the actual Topcon lenses that were made for the camera. This is also critical if you want to use the camera movements: tilt, swing and so on. Focusing on the ground glass is the only way to utilize camera movements on any camera. The camera has a hood so you can use the ground glass out doors and the hood pops out of the way for critical focus with a magnifier. Topcon made lenses that were designed for this camera. They are really very nice, and designed to work with the camera. If you do use one of those lenses you can actually hand hold the camera using the rangefinder to focus and the viewfinder to compose. I should point out that the shutter release on the Topcon lenses is designed to be easy to use when you\u2019re hand holding the camera. No need for a special trigger grip. The camera has really good ergonomics to go with its build quality. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5589.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3512 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5589.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"611\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5589.jpg 700w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5589-300x262.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5590.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3513 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5590.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"700\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5590.jpg 700w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5590-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5590-300x300.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">The camera has front rise and front swing. If you might want more movements you have a couple of choices: first you could get one of the later versions of the camera. Alternatively, you could use the back movements. The camera has a back bellows that can be opened with four knobs on the side of the camera. If you do this you have about an inch of play in any direction, which provides back tilt and back swing. It\u2019s a little more difficult to use these movements than working with a monorail camera, but no monorail camera collapses to something you can carry with one hand. If you want to shoot a vertical orientation on a tripod there is an extra tripod socket on the side of the camera, another nice design item. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5584.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3507 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5584.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"558\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5584.jpg 700w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5584-300x239.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5583.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3506 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5583.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"538\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5583.jpg 700w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5583-300x231.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">While I can mention additional nice features, like the distance scale on the top of the camera, I should mention a couple of problems. The first one is that, if you want to use any Topcon lens with the rangefinder, and who wouldn\u2019t, you need a rangefinder cam and a set of infinity stops. The rangefinder cams are generally available on eBay, but they can be a little pricey. The infinity stops, which keep the lens in the right place for its focal length, are very rare. Both of these things make it a little difficult to use this camera with multiple lenses, which is a shame. An additional issue is that the front bed doesn\u2019t drop so it\u2019s unlikely that you could use this camera with any lens wider than a 65mm. A 65mm isn\u2019t that wide on 6X9cm negative. However you could set up the camera with a 150mm or even a 210mm and shoot portraits and the 65mm might be about right for groups. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5599.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3520 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5599.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"462\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5599.jpg 700w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5599-300x198.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5592-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3528\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5592-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"628\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5592-1.jpg 700w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5592-1-300x269.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I\u2019m putting this camera up for auction on eBay. I would have continued to search for a set of infinity stops, but another great medium format camera fell into my hands. That\u2019s a story for next time. Here\u2019s the <a href=\"http:\/\/rover.ebay.com\/rover\/1\/711-53200-19255-0\/1?icep_ff3=2&amp;pub=5575378759&amp;campid=5338273189&amp;customid=&amp;icep_item=283020356786&amp;ipn=psmain&amp;icep_vectorid=229466&amp;kwid=902099&amp;mtid=824&amp;kw=lg&amp;toolid=11111\">eBay link<\/a><br \/>\nOr you could contact me at john@siskinphto.com.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I guess I should mention that the camera comes with the Topcor 105mm f3.5 Super lens, which is a nice thing. This lens covers the 6X9cm format, but won&#8217;t cover 4X5. Topcon made another version that did cover 4X5, but it&#8217;s slower.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5594.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3516 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5594.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"691\" height=\"700\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5594.jpg 691w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5594-296x300.jpg 296w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 691px) 100vw, 691px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I&#8217;ve also included a Graflex 6X9cm roll film back, a sheet film holder and 3 extra lens boards in the Auction! What a deal.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5610.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3533\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5610.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"465\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5610.jpg 700w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5610-300x199.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I&#8217;m setting up a separate auction for a Super Topcor 150 f5.6 lens. It&#8217;s on a Horseman lens board, but unfortunately I don&#8217;t have the rangefinder cam or the infinity stops for the lens. Check it out at this <a href=\"http:\/\/rover.ebay.com\/rover\/1\/711-53200-19255-0\/1?icep_ff3=2&amp;pub=5575378759&amp;campid=5338273189&amp;customid=&amp;icep_item=283020390201&amp;ipn=psmain&amp;icep_vectorid=229466&amp;kwid=902099&amp;mtid=824&amp;kw=lg&amp;toolid=11111\">eBay link!<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5601.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3532\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5601.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"677\" height=\"700\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5601.jpg 677w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/DSC5601-290x300.jpg 290w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 677px) 100vw, 677px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I hope you\u2019ll also check out my books, use the links below:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1608952428\/ref=as_li_ss_il?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=siskinphotoco-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1608952428\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/ws.assoc-amazon.com\/widgets\/q?_encoding=UTF8&amp;Format=_SL160_&amp;ASIN=1608952428&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;ID=AsinImage&amp;WS=1&amp;tag=siskinphotoco-20&amp;ServiceVersion=20070822\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1608953009\/ref=as_li_ss_il?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=siskinphotoco-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1608953009\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/ws.assoc-amazon.com\/widgets\/q?_encoding=UTF8&amp;Format=_SL160_&amp;ASIN=1608953009&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;ID=AsinImage&amp;WS=1&amp;tag=siskinphotoco-20&amp;ServiceVersion=20070822\" alt=\"\" width=\"120\" height=\"160\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=siskinphotoco-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1608952428\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=siskinphotoco-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1608953009\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">One more thing, there are more than 8000 people registered on this blog. Wow! Thanks everyone.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019ve wanted to discuss some vintage cameras for a while. I know that a lot of people are more interested in shooting film again, so I wanted to share some of what I\u2019ve learned about film cameras, especially fun film cameras, over the decades. Of course my idea of fun might be different from yours. Also I\u2019m teaching Large Format Photography at the Art Institute of Indianapolis in a couple of weeks, so these posts will add a little extra information to the class.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,19,16],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3521"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3521"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3521\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3538,"href":"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3521\/revisions\/3538"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3521"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3521"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3521"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}