{"id":2725,"date":"2014-10-20T13:13:04","date_gmt":"2014-10-20T18:13:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=2725"},"modified":"2014-10-20T13:13:04","modified_gmt":"2014-10-20T18:13:04","slug":"junk-man","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=2725","title":{"rendered":"Junk Man"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1608952428\/ref=as_li_ss_il?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=siskinphotoco-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1608952428\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ws.assoc-amazon.com\/widgets\/q?_encoding=UTF8&amp;Format=_SL160_&amp;ASIN=1608952428&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;ID=AsinImage&amp;WS=1&amp;tag=siskinphotoco-20&amp;ServiceVersion=20070822\" alt=\"\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=siskinphotoco-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1608952428\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1608953009\/ref=as_li_ss_il?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=siskinphotoco-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1608953009\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ws.assoc-amazon.com\/widgets\/q?_encoding=UTF8&amp;Format=_SL160_&amp;ASIN=1608953009&amp;MarketPlace=US&amp;ID=AsinImage&amp;WS=1&amp;tag=siskinphotoco-20&amp;ServiceVersion=20070822\" alt=\"\" width=\"120\" height=\"160\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: none !important; margin: 0px !important;\" src=\"http:\/\/www.assoc-amazon.com\/e\/ir?t=siskinphotoco-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=1608953009\" alt=\"\" width=\"1\" height=\"1\" border=\"0\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">My books and my classes give me a reason to keep doing this blog. If you\u2019re in Indiana I hope you\u2019ll consider taking my <a href=\"http:\/\/www.siskinphoto.com\/workshop.php\" target=\"_blank\">Portfolio Workshop<\/a>. You can see a little more information about this workshop if you check out <a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/?p=2653\" target=\"_blank\">this blog post<\/a> . I\u2019ve listed my BetterPhoto classes at the end of this post. Thanks so much for your attention.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I\u2019m a junk man. I think that it\u2019s better to have more gear than newer gear. So I have a lot of Norman 200B strobes. Norman 200Bs haven\u2019t been made in about 20 years, long time. Norman still makes a 200C, which costs about $1200, while a used, well used, 200B can be had for around $100 on eBay. So, if I can find them I can get a used unit for less than 10% of a new one. The used one weighs more, which is too bad, but it has some actual advantages. The 200B recycles quicker than almost any other strobe; the best 200Bs recycle to full power in a second. Norman 200Bs use 12-volt power, so you can run one off a cigarette lighter socket in your car, you can use a cheap lead acid 12V battery, you can even use a car battery. I don\u2019t know of any other strobe that has so many inexpensive power options. A Norman 200B is pretty powerful, with a guide number around 114 with a standard reflector. The thing is that a Norman reflector spreads light a lot wider field than a Canon or Nikon strobe. The reflector isn\u2019t built in so there are a lot more ways to modify the light, you can even use the bare tube (bare bulb) alone. I\u2019ve also checked and with a big soft box, say 3X3 foot the 200B is about the same brightness as the much more expensive Canon or Nikon units. Now a 200b, even a 200C is a manual strobe: you can control the output, but the strobe won\u2019t automatically change the output. If you\u2019re designing the light for your shot this won\u2019t be a problem, but if you want to have the flash make your choices a Norman 200B, any manual strobe, is not the way to go.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2728\" style=\"width: 610px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/norman.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2728\" class=\"wp-image-2728 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/norman-e1413828410693.jpg\" alt=\"A Norman 200B Head (called an LH2) bare bulb and with some accessories\" width=\"600\" height=\"210\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2728\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A Norman 200B Head (called an LH2) bare bulb and with some accessories<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">If I\u2019m shooting interiors, for an architect or a designer I\u2019ll take 7 of the 200B strobes with me. There are so many places that you might need to put light when shooting interiors, so sometimes even 7 strobes isn\u2019t enough. It\u2019s better to have a lot of strobes, even if they\u2019re junk, than not enough lights. With architectural lighting power isn\u2019t as important as having light where you need it. If I was shooting people or product I might not take as many lights, but I would still grab the 200Bs first.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2730\" style=\"width: 210px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/image-8.2a.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2730\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2730\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/image-8.2a-200x300.jpg\" alt=\"Norman 200B power pack \" width=\"200\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/image-8.2a-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/image-8.2a-682x1024.jpg 682w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/image-8.2a.jpg 1067w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2730\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Norman 200B power pack<\/p><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">If I\u2019m shooting an event, and frankly I\u2019d rather not, I grab a different strobe: the Sunpak 120J. Another piece of old junk. A 120J has a little more than half as much power as a Norman 200B, but it has automatic exposure! This is an earlier version of strobe automation, not the current ttl system. Still it\u2019s accurate most of the time. Here\u2019s a couple of things I like about the 120J: it uses the same strobe tubes as a 200b and the same reflectors. It can hold its own batteries or use a high voltage battery pack. Also it mounts on a hot shoe or a 1\/4X20 thread. Oh yeah, they\u2019re cheap, well reasonably priced. Quantum made some similar units that are worth checking out. The current Quantum strobes are probably worth having if you shoot a lot of events.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2732\" style=\"width: 210px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/Lighting-644_4488.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2732\" class=\"wp-image-2732 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/Lighting-644_4488-200x300.jpg\" alt=\"A 200B rig for flash fill\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/Lighting-644_4488-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/Lighting-644_4488-682x1024.jpg 682w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/Lighting-644_4488.jpg 1067w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2732\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A 200B rig for flash fill<\/p><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">There are a couple more classic (old) strobes I should mention, first the Vivitar 283. They made millions of these and you can consistently find them for less than $30. I owned a couple of these modified with an extra capacitor to have a stop more power and there were a lot more modifications and accessories. The high voltage battery packs were really quite helpful because they reduced the recycle time a lot. Another strobe from the same time period is the Sunpak 411. I still use these because the head was so well designed it moved up and down as well as side to side. Unfortunately you don\u2019t often see a 411 in good shape.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2733\" style=\"width: 249px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/Lighting-F2342435.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2733\" class=\"wp-image-2733 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/Lighting-F2342435-239x300.jpg\" alt=\"Norman kit for location\" width=\"239\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/Lighting-F2342435-239x300.jpg 239w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/Lighting-F2342435-816x1024.jpg 816w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/Lighting-F2342435.jpg 1275w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 239px) 100vw, 239px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2733\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Norman kit for location<\/p><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Of course there are a lot of other good used strobes available, and I should mention Lumedyne in particular. These are manual strobes, similar to the 200B, but can produce much more light. With the right accessories you can get up to 2400watt-seconds from these battery powered units. Lumedyne strobes are available new and used, and a little pricier than the Norman 200B. Still if you need battery powered strobes with as much light as a studio strobe this might be the way to go.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2734\" style=\"width: 222px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/vivitar.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2734\" class=\"wp-image-2734 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/vivitar-212x300.jpg\" alt=\"Vivitar 283-with manual power control and 2nd capacitor modification\" width=\"212\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/vivitar-212x300.jpg 212w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/vivitar-723x1024.jpg 723w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/vivitar.jpg 1131w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 212px) 100vw, 212px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2734\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Vivitar 283-with manual power control and 2nd capacitor modification<\/p><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">If you need a lot of light on location there are a couple of ways to go. First there are battery packs that you can plug a mono-light or a studio strobe into. Many companies offer these now, and they can be quite helpful. I prefer to use a gas generator. While it is much heavier you can shoot all night and day with just a few gallons of gas! Of course you may need an assistant to lug the thing around. Gas generators start at less than $150.00, batteries for mono-lights are generally more expensive.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2729\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/F2399053.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2729\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-2729\" src=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/F2399053-300x296.jpg\" alt=\"Gas generator for location work\" width=\"300\" height=\"296\" srcset=\"https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/F2399053-300x296.jpg 300w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/F2399053-1024x1011.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/siskinphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/F2399053.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2729\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gas generator for location work<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">d\/I could discuss the new stuff on the market, but not in this entry. There\u2019s a lot more information about strobes in my book: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Understanding-Controlling-Strobe-Lighting-Photographers\/dp\/1608952428\/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1275336253&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\">Understanding and Controlling Strobe Lighting: A Guide for Digital Photographers<br \/>\n<\/a>If you\u2019re interested in how to light interiors and other architectural shooting you might want this book:<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Lighting-Architectural-Photography-Photographers-Interior\/dp\/1608953009\/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1307560306&amp;sr=1-3\" target=\"_blank\"> Photographing Architecture<br \/>\n<\/a>Or you can check out my classes at BetterPhoto:<br \/>\n<span style=\"font-family: Arial;\"><span style=\"font-size: medium;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.betterphoto.com\/courseOverview.asp?cspID=172\" target=\"_blank\">An Introduction to Photographic Lighting<br \/>\n<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.betterphoto.com\/courseOverview.asp?cspID=71\" target=\"_blank\">Portrait Lighting on Location and in the Studio<br \/>\n<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.betterphoto.com\/courseOverview.asp?cspID=179\" target=\"_blank\">Getting Started in Commercial Photography<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019m a junk man. 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